tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post8995003448487524000..comments2024-03-27T14:26:25.469-07:00Comments on Saved by Grace: The Bible and Alcohol: Why I Don’t DrinkLaurie Colletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-3251512065852833462014-10-04T11:59:02.907-07:002014-10-04T11:59:02.907-07:00Hi Kristen,
Thanks for your visit and comment. Sor...Hi Kristen,<br />Thanks for your visit and comment. Sorry if I misunderstood -- the link-up was described as "a weekly hangout for Christian bloggers," and I did address the topic of "my town" in the comment I left there. In addition, many towns hold celebrations in public and/or in private involving alcohol consumption, and as Christians, I believe it is important for us to consider our views on this subject and the Bible basis for these views. If you feel my blog post is inappropriate for your link-up, please feel free to delete it. If so, my sincere apologies for any inconvenience.<br />God bless,<br />LaurieLaurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-2537478470944481932014-10-04T11:47:55.008-07:002014-10-04T11:47:55.008-07:00and this has to do with this topic of this weeks l...and this has to do with this topic of this weeks link up being "my town" how? Mom2boyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03488047009020372513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-16141865393662801412014-10-02T19:23:18.441-07:002014-10-02T19:23:18.441-07:00Thanks, Hazel, for hosting and for your words of s...Thanks, Hazel, for hosting and for your words of support -- I appreciate it! Many blessings to you,<br />Laurie<br />Laurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-36293863483332656092014-09-29T22:55:39.873-07:002014-09-29T22:55:39.873-07:00Others may but you may NOT was a track I read as a...Others may but you may NOT was a track I read as a child. I believed it then and still do. Thank you for sharing your awesome post with us here at “Tell Me a Story.” http://letmetelluastory.blogspot.com/ a joyful noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08712092116466408490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-1783932230265200292014-09-29T12:44:03.856-07:002014-09-29T12:44:03.856-07:00Amen, Donald -- the last thing I would want to do ...Amen, Donald -- the last thing I would want to do is to be a stumbling block. "New" wine, or unfermented grape juice, was more highly prized in Bible times as it did not last in that state for long without fermenting. I believe that the "wine" Jesus made from water, for example, was more likely grape juice for this reason, as the guests marvelled that the host had saved the best wine for last.<br />Thanks for your enlightening comment & God bless,<br />LaurieLaurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-19533443875875224052014-09-29T12:34:41.200-07:002014-09-29T12:34:41.200-07:00Hi Brenda,
Yes, the Bible is clear that drunkennes...Hi Brenda,<br />Yes, the Bible is clear that drunkenness is a sin, and that we should be Spirit-filled. My preference is to not drink, thereby eliminating the possibility of drunkenness and maximizing the likelihood that I will be receptive to the Spirit's leading. Thank you for sharing your experiences and for your thoughtful comment. <br />Many blessings to you and your ministry,<br />LaurieLaurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-6149857494459267812014-09-29T10:17:39.666-07:002014-09-29T10:17:39.666-07:00Great post, Laurie.
In our area there is a lot of...Great post, Laurie.<br /><br />In our area there is a lot of alcoholism, and for me to use it would definitely be a stumbling block for those around me. Many people do not realize that frequently the words translated wine did not refer to fermented juice, but could refer to fresh juice or fermented wine. Stored in skin bottles, the alcoholic content soon escaped, leaving a very mild tasting drink. Eventually it would turn to vinegar. Donald Fishgrabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11977970195032209188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-17217851372185426192014-09-29T09:15:44.466-07:002014-09-29T09:15:44.466-07:00Dear Frank,
That is interesting that your church s...Dear Frank,<br />That is interesting that your church serves grape juice and wine at Communion to allow believers to make the choice -- I believe most churches decide on one or the other. Surely it is not for Christians to judge one another, particularly in matters where liberty allows one's conscience to decide. Thanks as always for sharing your valuable insights and experience.<br />God bless,<br />LaurieLaurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-8219800505684862102014-09-29T01:30:05.606-07:002014-09-29T01:30:05.606-07:00Hi Laurie,
yes I agree with what Frank has said re...Hi Laurie,<br />yes I agree with what Frank has said regarding drinking alcohol. I used to rely on alcohol to give me confidence, now my confidence is in a different Spirit. I enjoy a little red wine occasionally, one bottle of Merlot will last me for about two months, and I like the occasional tot of whisky, maybe once every couple of weeks. I did not drink any alcohol for many years after I was born again and then I realized just how it was not my 'master' any more. It is drunkenness that is the fault.<br />God bless you Laurie, it is a good subject to discuss.Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165344093549650260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-19154813356405418762014-09-28T11:43:23.265-07:002014-09-28T11:43:23.265-07:00Dear Laurie,
The matter of alcoholic consumption ...Dear Laurie,<br />The matter of alcoholic consumption has always been a controversal subject within the churches. Is wine, taken at Communion to symbolise the blood of Christ okay to take, but not the wine taken at the dinner table?<br />That's why in our church, Communion wine is served in both alcoholic and non-alcoholic formats, to avoid any harm to anyone with a weak conscience in the fellowship.<br />Jesus, at the Last Supper, commanded his followers to remember him when breaking bread and drinking wine, which indicated that this was done during normal fellowship meals, and even among believing members of the family, along with guests and relatives, of which their culture consisted in those days.The making of Communion into a Holy Sacrament was made centuries later by the Roman Catholic Church, and it is unfortunate that this had carried into Protestant and many Charismatic churches to this day.<br />How God speaks to the individual believer varies from person to person, I think, depending on that person's conscience. <br />As for myself, I feel fine about an occasional glass of red wine at the dinner table, but if offered a refill, I normally decline, as I know just how far to go before I cross that line.<br />My stance therefore, is not to judge another if he fancies a glass of wine with his dinner. On the other hand, the one who has a drink should not make the one who abstains feel alienated.<br />An excellent post on the subject, and I look forward to your next installment.<br />God bless.Frank E. Blasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12218732913319387677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-81211754775742816172014-09-28T07:40:07.853-07:002014-09-28T07:40:07.853-07:00Dear Zim, Thank you for sharing your experience an...Dear Zim, Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts on this. It is true that even Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach's sake. In those days, as in some regions today, bacteria in the water is a problem that a small amount of alcohol added to the water could correct. There is a difference between using alcohol in medicine (some herbal medicines are in an alcohol base) and using it to change your mental state.<br />It sounds like South Poland is beautiful this time of year! Blessings and greetings to you,<br />LaurieLaurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-35634565032615200352014-09-28T07:24:28.380-07:002014-09-28T07:24:28.380-07:00Thanks, Nonnie, for your words of support. God ble...Thanks, Nonnie, for your words of support. God bless.<br />LaurieLaurie Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676088158113572565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-54716445928569522612014-09-28T07:14:43.430-07:002014-09-28T07:14:43.430-07:00I think that all material things can be good or ba...I think that all material things can be good or bad, it depends on way we use them. For example, You can use knife to kill someone, but You can also cut slice of bread for hungry man or woman. <br />When I was the first time in Bosnia, I had big problem with my stomach. I wasn't used to temperature 45 degreeds in summer (113 F). Then I understood why Serbian people use small portions of "rakija" (strong alcohol drink, more than 50%) as additional to lunch. After that my stomach came back to normal state... Normally, in my Polish home, I don't use alcohol, because I don't need. But in regions, where climate is warmer and summers can be very hot, it is like medicine against bacterias - and nobody treats it as a way to be drunk. <br />But if I will invite someone to my home in Poland, I will not give him or her any alcohol, if it can be problem or cause of scandal. <br />I respect Your statement and - in my Polish home, or even in Serbian - You won't have problem with alcohol near me as Sister in Christ :)<br />I wish You nice day and God's blessing from nice, autumn South Poland!Nadwrażliwiec https://www.blogger.com/profile/00793189053691447662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8901842915517693862.post-74783659955018289922014-09-27T12:18:08.008-07:002014-09-27T12:18:08.008-07:00Thank you for putting this down in such an organiz...Thank you for putting this down in such an organized and logical way. I am in agreement with you. Not a good witness. Nonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13020639587130083388noreply@blogger.com